How Lorde, Dr. Dre, Snoop, Kanye, and Biggie Hit the Top 40 of Our Greatest Songs List

In the new episode of our Rolling Music Now podcast, we continue our deep dive into IndieLand’s new and totally revamped  500 Greatest Songs of All Time list, with Brittany Spanos and Rob Sheffield joining host Brian Hiatt for the discussion.

The panel debates some of the most controversial placements on the list — including Lorde’s “Royals” all the way at Number 30 — and unpacks the greatness of other high-ranking songs, from Dr. Dre and Snoop Dogg’s “Nuthin’ but a ‘G’ Thang” and Kanye West’s “Runaway” to Bruce Springsteen’s “Born to Run” and Joni Mitchell’s “A Case of You.”

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